What we see or hear from another must be within us already for us to be able to recognize it … it must already be a concept in our mind… so in that sense the spilt between a me and another is always illusory… mind playing games with itself….the games may still continue but it’s just not so serious any more … and there really can’t be a spiritual person as such….Because to categorize a phenomenon as a person is just our own memory (ability to conjure an image through description by a so called other is the same thing) of a so called part that we assimilate and call it a person… the moment simply is and contains all…..there’s really never a person as such… there can’t be since all is one whole…Life just is…